Thursday, March 23, 2006

Religious Americans support torture most


The very idea that the nation founded by men like Thomas Jefferson has degenerated to the level that it supports torture astounds me. And sickens me. It is a blot on the American reputation but then these days the government is so power hungry, and yearning for a global empire, that it should not surprise me. A recent Pew poll asked Americans if they support the use the torture. Choices were "often", "sometimes", "rarely", or "never".

Only 32% said never. But the more religious a person the more likely they were to support the use of torture. And Catholics, perhaps fondly yearning for the Inquisition, or maybe the rap of Sister's ruler on their knuckles, are more likely to support torture than any one else. Only 26% of Catholics said "never". But 72% supported the use of torture at times with 21% doing so often. Only 31% of Protestants, both liberal and fundamentalist, opposed torture. And 41% of those who describe themselves as "secular" oppose the use of torture.

So the non-believers were the one group least likely to support the use of torture. And people argue that religion gives one a moral compass!

11 Comments:

Blogger Pirate said...

I find this one harder to believe then most of the previous posts. Usually Chrisitians tend to be against capital punishment regardless of the crime. As someone who has fought against capital punishment for the last twenty years I have not meet one non- Christian.

Based on real life experiences i have a real hard time believing this one. I think soemone has mislead you this time.

March 24, 2006

 
Blogger CLS said...

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March 24, 2006

 
Blogger GodlessZone said...

verified the poll before I posted it. I read the actually results from Pew which is a widely respecting polling company.

March 24, 2006

 
Blogger Pirate said...

I would like to see the poll myself and parse the questions. It just doesn't add up based on 46 years of experience.

I just can't imagine my 103 year old grandmother who has been a practicing Seventh day adventist and a wife of a now deceased minister who spoke from the pew for over years advocating violence or torture against anyone.

I know of Chrisitans that do advocate capital punishment but they are far from the majority. Man i don't even think money changers like Jerry Falwell would advocate torture.

March 24, 2006

 
Blogger GodlessZone said...

Go here for the details:

http://ncronline.org/NCR_Online/archives2/2006a/032406/032406h.htm

I only recently learned how to link so I will try to do that in the future.

Your error is a common one usually made by the Left. An economy booms and a Lefty says it isn't because he knows someone out of a job. Your grandmother may not endorse torture but I've met many Christians who would.

March 24, 2006

 
Blogger Pirate said...

equating me with the left. you are truely a wizard.

March 24, 2006

 
Blogger GodlessZone said...

Pirate: Can you read? I did not equate you to the Left. I said you made an error that is one they usually make. That is not the same thing.

March 24, 2006

 
Blogger Pirate said...

I can read. I testing your sense of humor.

March 25, 2006

 
Blogger GodlessZone said...

Alas the internet removes the nuances that communicate such messages leading to misunderstanding and confusion hence the necessity to make it clear. A smiley face at the end is all that is required to let the person know you are not being serious. As great a means of communication the Internet loses the nuances of tone and expressions that usually communicate the differences. Writing is pretty much stuck as meaning what it says unless indicated otherwise.

March 25, 2006

 
Blogger Derreck said...

Oh, boy. Why do you think Christians are all the same? Hello?

Of course I know many religions, also christianity, have this kind of group feeling, also known as imprisonment from free thinking. But not all are as stupid as the herd, as for some people, religion is a personal matter, not something you were born with, or something everyone does. I't's a relation with God, personal, free from religious nonsense or powerfreakes for leaders. The nun you depicted is one of the herd, the person within hardly exsists, but not all who follow a belief are automatically of this herd. For they know their shepherd is not a person, but their God, and therefor, they need no one to tell them anything, through Bible or church.

Anyway, bad posts are posts aswell, after all: "without evil, good can never be."

March 29, 2006

 
Blogger GodlessZone said...

Derrick: Perhaps it is the language differences but I have no idea what you are talking about here. Honestly. First, nothing in the post said all religious people are alike. It was about one poll on supporting torture and it mentioned specific numbers which clearly indicate that on this issue they don't all think alike only that they are more likely, not less likely, to support the use of torture. Since it clearly shows they don't all agree it says that on this matter they ARE NOT ALL ALIKE. So your comment makes no sense to me. Second,I don't think it is a matter of their relationship with a god. I don't believe supernatural beings of any kind exist. One thing religious people (not quite all though) have in common is their ability to imagine a relationship with the non existent -- which is sort of on par with children who think Santa is watching the and will reward them if they have been "nice". Finally the nun is only meant to be a light hearted illustration which in fact has nothing to do with the article per se. Your comment indicates you did not see it was humor and not meant seriously.

March 29, 2006

 

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